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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:09 am
by pauhi
Tupe23 wrote:There is ShD with big smile in Revolution. :o
It's Whispi, man :)

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:11 am
by MarlPoro
Goddamn Beaverrr took bad shots of Torabora ;D doesn't show the whole greatness of the map B<

It's been fun working with these guys and I think both of these maps will come out very nice (well, they both are almost finished, so it's easy to say :)

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:53 am
by V34
*Sexy whistle* :hop:

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:21 am
by emu
last year how many maps has been out thats been playable ? simplicity ? thats about it ? more gmae play less looks

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:07 am
by Tupe23
pauhi wrote:
Tupe23 wrote:There is ShD with big smile in Revolution. :o
It's Whispi, man :)
Öh.

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:43 am
by Stinger
emu wrote:last year how many maps has been out thats been playable ? simplicity ? thats about it ? more gmae play less looks
I have to agree with this. While it's great people can make some really good looking maps, with well chosen textures etc., I'd MUCH rather have a bunch of cw maps. I'd really like something different, seems everyone's stuck in cliff2, cloud, airport and mesto nowadays, but unfortunately there's not all that many cw maps to choose from.

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:14 am
by Beavisss
Stinger wrote:
emu wrote:last year how many maps has been out thats been playable ? simplicity ? thats about it ? more gmae play less looks
I have to agree with this. While it's great people can make some really good looking maps, with well chosen textures etc., I'd MUCH rather have a bunch of cw maps. I'd really like something different, seems everyone's stuck in cliff2, cloud, airport and mesto nowadays, but unfortunately there's not all that many cw maps to choose from.
I would say few words: Its impossible to statisfy everybody. You want cw maps? have u even tried half of new maps that been released? I doubt it.
So I'll better statisfy myself and make a map that I like myself. :hop: :hop: :hop: :hop: :hop: :hop:

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:42 am
by Stinger
Beavisss wrote: I would say few words: Its impossible to statisfy everybody. You want cw maps? have u even tried half of new maps that been released? I doubt it.
So I'll better statisfy myself and make a map that I like myself. :hop: :hop: :hop: :hop: :hop: :hop:

Ofcourse it is impossible to satisfy everyone, and I haven't tried all the new maps, but I can tell you what's good to have in a cw map and what you simply can't have in them for them to work - and most if not all of them have flaws, which make them unfit for cws.

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:39 am
by cheef
stric, please upload the maps on NARF server when its done :]

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:53 pm
by Beavisss
Stinger wrote:
Beavisss wrote: I would say few words: Its impossible to statisfy everybody. You want cw maps? have u even tried half of new maps that been released? I doubt it.
So I'll better statisfy myself and make a map that I like myself. :hop: :hop: :hop: :hop: :hop: :hop:

Ofcourse it is impossible to satisfy everyone, and I haven't tried all the new maps, but I can tell you what's good to have in a cw map and what you simply can't have in them for them to work - and most if not all of them have flaws, which make them unfit for cws.
No kidding, but I am really wondering, why dont u make awesome maps, or havent asked yet somebody to make great cw map. You know what cw map needs, you are the best. So why do we still play cliff2 and cloud!

waiting for your answer!

Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:47 am
by Stinger
Beavisss wrote: No kidding, but I am really wondering, why dont u make awesome maps, or havent asked yet somebody to make great cw map. You know what cw map needs, you are the best. So why do we still play cliff2 and cloud!
waiting for your answer!
Well obviously you took this pesonally for some reason? I'm not going to take this any further if you're going to bitch and moan about it, so, forget it..

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:15 am
by NRGizeR
In my experience people don't know what they want... Most of us know what kind of map we like, but we don't know WHY we like that particular map. I've tried getting second opinions about parts of the map, or even the map as a whole several times (mostly when making my UrT maps) and after that experience I would have to say that it would probably have been better not to. Almost no-one would confess to liking maps with camping spots, but almost everyone likes maps like urban2 (which has a great number of camping spots).

While no-one would agree that they like a particular feature, it's also partly that very feature that makes the map fun to play. It should all be balanced, but if you don't have camping spots (for example), you leave out part of the aq2 elements. If you don't have long open distances, you won't have proper sniper areas, if you don't have proper small corridors and/or passages, you won't have proper hc/shotgun opertunities, and so on and so forth. The community can often tell a mapper if his map is good or not, but I've seldom seen a respons that would actually tell me exactly WHAT the player liked about it. I've also experienced on several occations that the player in question will try the map for about 2 minutes of jumping around on it, never even giving it a proper chance, before flaming or praising the map.

That's my experience/opinion, if you want, flame me, but I do think I have at the very least a valid point in this post.

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:29 am
by Beavisss
NRGizeR wrote:I've also experienced on several occations that the player in question will try the map for about 2 minutes of jumping around on it, never even giving it a proper chance, before flaming or praising the map.
that's so word :D

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:52 am
by arild
I like new maps. And i see several of them beeing played aswell at public/cws. Anyways... If anyone is thinking of remaking an old map please remake Aqnitro since own still have that map and it looks like crap :)

-Alex

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:05 am
by Da^JuaN
What about a server playing all the new maps? Seems better imo than these classic maps.. what catchgamer is doing.