Uhm i like the idea, BUT in this setup (for the challenge thing) only the big clans would have the chance to get the award making it lesser interesting for the little clans around (less skilled, but active). I don't know if you want to do that.
For that big war thing (1on1, 2on2 etc.) I think it should be once a week and voluntary. Like some clan signs up and another signs up to compete against them. U can then make a price for every week (or something) to still keep that "finals feeling" and it can be made more interesting for other people outside of these matches (Interviews with the guys that played 1on1 come to mind).
Just some thoughts. (Nice idea but like said, it needs tweaking.)
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I just read it all through. And I just want to say that I think my idea would achieve the same effect but without all the mess that is making a website, adminning, deciding rules, GAME SCHEDULING(this is something that almost always fails miserably at least once in every major tourney.), etc.
Also, your match-system (1on1,2on2 and so on) seems a little clunky to me.
Also, your match-system (1on1,2on2 and so on) seems a little clunky to me.
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Yeah, you're system would work wonders, only it would alot of the appeal (with the coverage and all), and I bet you $10 the belt would get lost within two months, as a clan folds in between holding the belt.
Yeah the format is clunky - it is also open to discussion, but I want an alternate, to give it all a different feel. If, for instance, the 5vs5 (highlander) game is dropped, six ten-minute matches equal an hour worth of playing.
About the hassle, I actually don't mind doing all that work, if I feel like have support. Adminning and arranging a single match every week is not match compared to the arrangements needed for things l
ike the EAQL and all.
Repsaj, yeah, the belt would eventually come in the possession of the bigger clans, but that's no problem. There are enough clans that aspire to be the best, and would do anything get that trophy from the competion. With the smaller clans not being able to play, isn't the same true for the later stages of any tournament? I plan to 'reset' the belt every six months, and proclaim the last beltholder the winner of the season, with the longest receiving some other (virtual) award.
Yeah the format is clunky - it is also open to discussion, but I want an alternate, to give it all a different feel. If, for instance, the 5vs5 (highlander) game is dropped, six ten-minute matches equal an hour worth of playing.
About the hassle, I actually don't mind doing all that work, if I feel like have support. Adminning and arranging a single match every week is not match compared to the arrangements needed for things l
ike the EAQL and all.
Repsaj, yeah, the belt would eventually come in the possession of the bigger clans, but that's no problem. There are enough clans that aspire to be the best, and would do anything get that trophy from the competion. With the smaller clans not being able to play, isn't the same true for the later stages of any tournament? I plan to 'reset' the belt every six months, and proclaim the last beltholder the winner of the season, with the longest receiving some other (virtual) award.
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Well, having a limited one challenge every week and having to wait approximately 5 months (20 clans in line) for every game against the holders doesn't really appeal to me. It is an interesting idea, but it really isn't going to work with those kinds of waiting times.
The problem with a lost belt that you speak of can be eradicated by letting the last clan who had it get it back.
The problem with a lost belt that you speak of can be eradicated by letting the last clan who had it get it back.
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Actually, combining n99's, zonic's and repsaj's posts I came to think of this:
Instead of having one Holder, we have three (gold, silver and bronze, or if we feel like having other names like "pro" "semi-pro" and "amateur" that'd work as well, heh)
Well, the entire cup would be divided into three leagues.. I haven't thought it entirely through yet tho.
Well at first there would either be a big group stage, where clans would be divided into three divisions, pro semi-pro and amateur. This is to give the cup more games..
This is an example of the working system (ofcourse the numbers differs from how many clans wanting to compete)
Pro-stage: 5 clans, all plays one and another. #1 is Pro/Gold-Holder.
Semi-pro-stage: 10 clans #1 and #2 after each time all 10 clans have played one and another moves to the Pro-stage, where the two suckiest
Pro-clan moves to the Semi-pro stage. #1 is Semi-pro/Silver-Holder.. and holds that title untill the Semi-pro-stage has been played over again.
Amateur-stage: Rest of the clans, #1, #2 and #3 after each time all clans have played one and another moves to the Semi-pro-stage, where the three suckiest Semi-pro-clans moves to the Amateur-stage. #1 is Amateur/Bronze-Holder... and holds that title untill the Amateur-stage has been played over again.
What do you think? The Silver- and Bronze-Holder titles still needs some thinking I spose..
Edit: This way the smaller clans have something to play for as well...
Instead of having one Holder, we have three (gold, silver and bronze, or if we feel like having other names like "pro" "semi-pro" and "amateur" that'd work as well, heh)
Well, the entire cup would be divided into three leagues.. I haven't thought it entirely through yet tho.
Well at first there would either be a big group stage, where clans would be divided into three divisions, pro semi-pro and amateur. This is to give the cup more games..
This is an example of the working system (ofcourse the numbers differs from how many clans wanting to compete)
Pro-stage: 5 clans, all plays one and another. #1 is Pro/Gold-Holder.
Semi-pro-stage: 10 clans #1 and #2 after each time all 10 clans have played one and another moves to the Pro-stage, where the two suckiest
Pro-clan moves to the Semi-pro stage. #1 is Semi-pro/Silver-Holder.. and holds that title untill the Semi-pro-stage has been played over again.
Amateur-stage: Rest of the clans, #1, #2 and #3 after each time all clans have played one and another moves to the Semi-pro-stage, where the three suckiest Semi-pro-clans moves to the Amateur-stage. #1 is Amateur/Bronze-Holder... and holds that title untill the Amateur-stage has been played over again.
What do you think? The Silver- and Bronze-Holder titles still needs some thinking I spose..
Edit: This way the smaller clans have something to play for as well...
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Sort of like an ordinary football division system. With promotions and relegations. Can't recall how many divisions there were though.
All these ideas that we've come up with so far seem to advanced in my eyes. I'm not sure if such the speedy aq2 community is going to be able to play through such an advanced tournament.
All these ideas that we've come up with so far seem to advanced in my eyes. I'm not sure if such the speedy aq2 community is going to be able to play through such an advanced tournament.
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Well, I thought my idea up in 2 minutes, must admit that... It sure does need some rethinking. I like n99's idea a lot, but it's just a too slow tournament for me, with all the clans in the aq2 community taking tourns to challenge 1 clan every week
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But that's just it. This kind of thing needs to be simple, yet does not need to be speedy - since it is something clans do on the side. I don't want to give this events more games, that will lose the whole 'it's a always a final' feeling. Clans dont have to be participating actively, since you only play alot when you're the holder, otherwise, you simply wait until it's your turn.
The thing with the different league has it's appeal, since it allows alot of clans to play that would otherwise be outclassed. However, three leagues seems like too much. I don't no, I'm not very good in thinking of alternate league formats - I think I do know how to work with Challenger-systems and alternate match formats.
How about I make it into a event in which only a limited amount of clans can participate at the same time; that would remove the long waiting times that people here seem to disagree with. Sign-up, max 26, that means even the clans that lose the time they 'challenge' will have another chance, so you play at least twice.
Only 2-3 admins needed, webspace has been arranged (on gruwelijk.com, the dutch will appreciate that). Now, all I need is someone to render a crown or other trophy for the webbie (nice and shiny gold please) and someone for the php and it's done.
The thing with the different league has it's appeal, since it allows alot of clans to play that would otherwise be outclassed. However, three leagues seems like too much. I don't no, I'm not very good in thinking of alternate league formats - I think I do know how to work with Challenger-systems and alternate match formats.
How about I make it into a event in which only a limited amount of clans can participate at the same time; that would remove the long waiting times that people here seem to disagree with. Sign-up, max 26, that means even the clans that lose the time they 'challenge' will have another chance, so you play at least twice.
Only 2-3 admins needed, webspace has been arranged (on gruwelijk.com, the dutch will appreciate that). Now, all I need is someone to render a crown or other trophy for the webbie (nice and shiny gold please) and someone for the php and it's done.
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Besides, Jazzy, with your concept, without coverage/websites/adminning etc. Who would care about a virtual award some kid nobody knows came up with? You maybe, but that's about it. Besides, I like to remain involved with the scene, so if I can't keep playing let me 'clunk around' with little clunky prestige projects, eh?
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Think it should stay as a 2 weeks challenge thingy. Otherwise it will be a normal cup, wich I suppose isnt the meaning.
If you want to kow maps etc, a 1week style will be difficult as the winner should immediately tell wich maps they will play next week and they might not even know wich players are avaiable.
Ok, so this will mean that only solid clans wil be able to play, but so what. If you want to participate it is something you should know and think of.
If you want to kow maps etc, a 1week style will be difficult as the winner should immediately tell wich maps they will play next week and they might not even know wich players are avaiable.
Ok, so this will mean that only solid clans wil be able to play, but so what. If you want to participate it is something you should know and think of.
Yeah that's what I hope will happen..kannibla wrote:I can sense the excitement in 1on1's where winner would be founded. Nice idea.
Anywya, Hage, yeah exactly, but with a two week/one match format no more than 12 clans can join, so every clan that signs up has a chance at the trophy.
Pre-limenary signup can commence in the following fashion:
Clans should know:
1. You know the actual form of this thing is being debated
2. You know there will not be many matches
3. You know you might only get one shot at this trophy
4. You know that if you lose this trophy, you will not have another shot at it until the following season
5. You know you need to have been around for quite a while, and have a good reputation
6. You know will be different, and matches will take at least an hour
Okay, first twelve signups can defenitely join, if they meet the critteria. I'm not going to go through with this unless at least 10 clans can play.
Contact should be made either through private message or email (thenine99@hotmail.com). These messages should contain name of the clan, founding date of the clan, name of the contact person and irc channel.
This is prelimenary, just to give me feeling whether or not this is gonna work. It should start sometime this autumn.
Also pm me for help / advice / critique.
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