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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:29 am
by grover
wtf is that desecrate..?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:31 am
by imeiz
desecrate wrote:-Did I ?

-And ? Perhaps I don't want to idle in fifteen different channels when there's no point ?

-Does this matter ? I did take quite a few breaks during my glory days in AQ2, after the breakes I didn't remember the last nick I used and left the past behind me.
-You were the only that could tell what command it was right a way. I've heard that you used that command some other time with pr0, on them. So that's why you're the most suspicious of the players there were.

-It's kinda weird that ppl only have one channel if they've used irc much, before they started playing aq2? And /ip2nick said you were only in quakenet, so that's why I mentioned it.

-I really can't believe that someone doesn't remember any of the nicks he used to play with. I would't've any reason to talk about it, if it doesn't matter?

Next time you post, try to give me some decent answers. It's no use asking why I ask you something, or is it?

15-year old boy, who has had many breaks. And used irc 'bout a year before started playing aq2. Sounds weird to me.

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:50 am
by alekchi
I can guess who he is, but it doesnt matter to me so I wont tell anyone about my doubtings. Let the boy be, I dont think he has harmed anyone yet (he hasnt won me and therefore pissed me of B>). And I dont really see any, not even a poor, motive for this, and every game against pr0/ I have played (didnt play on this one though) has been good game so I dont have any reasons to think its them.
And I have had my quake looking something like that after nothing special, just alt-tab and vid_restart.
But you can never know, let the time decide or bury this subject.

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:02 am
by desecrate
"-You were the only that could tell what command it was right a way."

-Which tells that I have some knowledge in rcon commands, does it make me the one to be held responsible ?

"I've heard that you used that command some other time with pr0, on them. So that's why you're the most suspicious of the players there were."

-For testing purposes only, during night with only two players in the server, me and the testbunny. - This also makes me the one to blame, doesn't it ?

"-It's kinda weird that ppl only have one channel if they've used irc much, before they started playing aq2?"

-I have two computers, one for gaming, second for programming and personal purposes only. - In other words; one computer for games and such, other one for life and such.

"And /ip2nick said you were only in quakenet, so that's why I mentioned it."

-Read the above.

"-I really can't believe that someone doesn't remember any of the nicks he used to play with."

-Yes well, we're all individuals here.

"Next time you post, try to give me some decent answers. It's no use asking why I ask you something, or is it?"

-Why should I answer, if there is no reason for it ? - Accusing me of something? - Accuse away, doesn't really bother me that much.

"15-year old boy, who has had many breaks. And used irc 'bout a year before started playing aq2. Sounds weird to me."

-And again, I still have two computers. I used irc for a year before starting aq2, true, yet if I use irc for communicating with others(what its designed for) it makes me a player of aq2 ?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:08 am
by Clement
Hey guys.. try this out: [ quote ] without the spaces! It works wonders! [/ quote ]

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:01 pm
by Kurupt
hej desecrate!

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:35 pm
by imeiz
desecrate wrote:-Which tells that I have some knowledge in rcon commands, does it make me the one to be held responsible ?

-For testing purposes only, during night with only two players in the server, me and the testbunny. - This also makes me the one to blame, doesn't it ?

-I have two computers, one for gaming, second for programming and personal purposes only. - In other words; one computer for games and such, other one for life and such.

-Why should I answer, if there is no reason for it ? - Accusing me of something? - Accuse away, doesn't really bother me that much.

-And again, I still have two computers. I used irc for a year before starting aq2, true, yet if I use irc for communicating with others(what its designed for) it makes me a player of aq2 ?
-It makes you the one that knows what happened, therefore the suspect. Don't tell me you think there's no logic if I claim that you did it, cos you're the only one who knew what really happened.

-This makes me think that you can do it again, for the ability. Anyway, you used it, so why wouldn't I think you could've used it this time?

-You play AQ2 and have a life. Please don't tell me you're serious. So, that gives you the possibility to fake, cos we only know your other ip, right?

-Just want to clear this out, cos there has to be someone who did it. You not answering tells me you have something to hide.
Ofcourse it doesn't, you can always play with new fakenicks.

-I never said, that using irc makes you a quaker, or did I?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 4:59 am
by Sulfate
[offtopic] and what was the name of that boy? :P:P:P [/offtopic]

hmm...i dont think pr0 didn`t do it...but the one who knows that rcon command...thats my geussing... :P

i started and played for pr0....but those guys dont do this kinda lame things... :) so i take my hands of my previous posts :)

but 1 question... would the b*strd who did it, take a gun and shoot himself? :)

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 6:25 am
by Gepardi
Well.. Let's start everything from the beginning.
On the match, 6 players from our clan were on the server.
The list of players:
- Gepardi (me)
- Bruicer
- Jeremias
- Amortizer
- desecrate
- retaip

- It can't be Amortizer because he came to the server after the rcon password was told mm2. So he didn't know the password.
- I'm pretty sure it wasn't Jeremias or Bruicer either. I know these guys enough well to believe they did not do it (and I think they didn't even know how to do it) . And they have never even messed around with rcon so why would have they done it now (when we were in a big lead in a nice game) ?

Three guys left; me, desecrate and retaip.
- I can tell you I did not do it and I wouldn't have known how to do it. You can believe me if you want to.

So, two guys left; desecrate and retaip.
- Both of these guys are pretty new in our clan but desecrate has only been a trial for a few days so I know retaip better than desecrate. I find it hard to belive that retaip is guilty, he concentrates on playing, not teasing the enemy.
- So, it's pretty logical to blame desecrate. I don't say I'd blame him but I don't find it so weird if some people do.

Think what you want.

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:29 am
by Hawk
well just remember one thing, you dont have to actually be on the server to use rcon, it's a simple matter of rcon_address, also if it was an rcon you've used all the time someone else might have it, maybe its even in a config uploaded on aq2world?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:36 am
by Gepardi
Hawk wrote:well just remember one thing, you dont have to actually be on the server to use rcon, it's a simple matter of rcon_address, also if it was an rcon you've used all the time someone else might have it, maybe its even in a config uploaded on aq2world?
It was a password that wasn't so easy to guess so I don't think so.
Only our team had it I think.

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 8:31 am
by desecrate
"-It makes you the one that knows what happened, therefore the suspect."

-I didn't know what happened. All I said on a previous post, that the command is "gl_nobind 1". -- Here's another as insane "theory" as you accusing me for the incident occured, that imitates your way of thinking:
"They did it. They were losing bad and wanted to get away with it by doing such thing. So now the match gave credits to wh00s-clan for playing the match despite of this dramatic attempt of "sabotage". Seems to me that's a motive good enough, wouldn't you agree ?".

"Don't tell me you think there's no logic if I claim that you did it, cos you're the only one who knew what really happened."

-Read the above.

"-This makes me think that you can do it again, for the ability. Anyway, you used it, so why wouldn't I think you could've used it this time?"

-I could've used it, for the ability, yes. Same as you could jump from a building, for the ability. You can think whatever you wish, when you have solid-proof evidence that I did it, let me know.

"-You play AQ2 and have a life. Please don't tell me you're serious. So, that gives you the possibility to fake, cos we only know your other ip, right?"

-A man of your IQ asking this kind of question ? Of course I have the ability to "fake", but I see no reason to do such thing, do you? How is this even relevant in any aspect ?

"-Just want to clear this out, cos there has to be someone who did it. You not answering tells me you have something to hide. Ofcourse it doesn't, you can always play with new fakenicks."

-Me not answering tells you nothing, except I'm too lazy, bored or feeling sorry for you, not that I have something to hide. - Please don't make sudden assumptions.

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 8:56 am
by imeiz
desecrate wrote:-I didn't know what happened. All I said on a previous post, that the command is "gl_nobind 1". -- Here's another as insane "theory" as you accusing me for the incident occured, that imitates your way of thinking:
"They did it. They were losing bad and wanted to get away with it by doing such thing. So now the match gave credits to wh00s-clan for playing the match despite of this dramatic attempt of "sabotage". Seems to me that's a motive good enough, wouldn't you agree ?".

-I could've used it, for the ability, yes. Same as you could jump from a building, for the ability. You can think whatever you wish, when you have solid-proof evidence that I did it, let me know.

-A man of your IQ asking this kind of question ? Of course I have the ability to "fake", but I see no reason to do such thing, do you? How is this even relevant in any aspect ?

-Me not answering tells you nothing, except I'm too lazy, bored or feeling sorry for you, not that I have something to hide. - Please don't make sudden assumptions.
-There's the difference, that pr0 was the one with rcon, so it has to be one of you. I pretty much agree with Gepardi, on his statement. I atleast have something to back up my theory. You knew the command and your team had the rcon. That I can't tell if you took the rcon when it was said to you. That I can only assume. I wouldn't see any reason that anyone would sabotage his/her own team. The reason I see you could've done it, is that it wouldn't've been the first time for you. "Quilty" once, suspect later.

-The difference this time is, that plumming to death would only be a bad thing from my point of view. You don't see people plumming just for fun, do you? But, you see people messing with rcon for fun, and that's a pity.

-If you f.ex. play in a clan that's inactive, but you don't want to leave. You might consider faking in an other clan, so you could play more cw's. That's happened, but I don't know why would you want to do that, because I don't know if you're faking, or not. If you're faking, then it could explain why you used gl_nobing, in case you did.

-It could tell me that too, but I don't see a reason not answering. That's why I (and usually others too) assume that you have something you wouldn't want to tell us.

Anyway, this is how I see it. I don't know if it's true or not. I made an incorrect statement saying you did it, because that I can't tell for sure. It's just my opinion, so that's about it.

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:02 am
by dudemcpek
I'm just wondering why there has to be 5 ppl with rcon. It's like giving credit card number to several ppl, u know what's gonna happen.

And desecrate, why r u 'quoting' imeiz and replying with questions? At least give some arguments about it.. :roll:



Also, why do u all bother who did it? Maybe it's a bug or something. If it's gonna happen again and there's gonna be pr0 playing, u probably know who did it.

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:18 am
by Jazzie
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