Jazzie wrote:
And to you morpher, you can't only look at the proof that points at him being guilty. Sometimes he's being shot from places where he's looking, why would that happen if he can see through the walls? And why would he (in some cases) proceed with extreme caution around corners and such, just to see that there isn't any enemies around the corner? Word is against word, and in that case, the defender always triumphs.
Demos is and will always be the lousiest piece of "proof" available since everyone has their own opinion. And his clan doesn't even win? If you have what you think is a suspicious situation, and you want to nail somebody. Stuff a screenshot! THAT would be quite hard proof that he uses wallhack. But of course, in your cheatbusting euphoria you might have forgotten that.
Ok - let's get one thing straight. This dude haven't played pier a lot. It shows clearly. That is the explanation as to why he sometimes fails to shoot his enemies straight ahead. He is in doubt as to why the other dude is behind a crate some place. Just like the situation where he keeps his aim for a few seconds on a dude wide open, where he doesn't shoot. That is most likely because he believes that there is a crate in the way. Another situation that shows that he is not familiar with the layout of the map is when he is shooting at a dude running in the tunnel-entrance to the big yard.. He obviously forgot that there is actually a roof on that tunnel.
The thing about him watching carefully around corners and such could very well be a part of his 'I have to hide my wh' tactic.. but then again, if he is as good on sounds as some of you seem to think, he wouldn't ever have to sneak up to corners to check if an enemy is there.. he would already know, seeing how he can locate all players at any time on the map using his sound.
I do agree though, that demoes aren't the best proof available, but all wallhacks made the last few years will auto-disable themselfes when a screenshot is stuffed, so that's not really an option. And as you might notice on the demo, I had to get the ip from another dude, which means that I didn't have rcon, so stuffing was not really an option. But in a case as clear as this, a demo is more than enough. The wallhack is so obvious!
The fact that his clan isn't winning has nothing to do with him cheating. His mate, and himself for that matter, really aren't any good at pier, and it's not like wallhack makes you unbeatable.
Jazzie wrote:And i will NOT watch that demo through a wallhack.
This is just ridiculous.. I said in my very first post that you most likely wouldn't be able to spot the wallhack without having it enabled yourself. The dude might not be any good at pier, but he still knows how to try and hide your wallhack.
eX wrote:Do you have to use a cheat to see if there is a cheat?
Yes, in some cases you do. If a dude is hiding his wallhack just a little bit, it can be hard to spot without wallhacking yourself.
Another interesting situation with this Dametosh dude is, that the day after the cw on the demo was played, and before I started this thread, 5th/ played against DC, and after 3 rounds played, Ralle, Mr. Old School, stopped the game and demanded that Dametosh got NoCheat which Dametosh refused, because it 'fucked up his q2'... 5th/ left the cw, and DC considered the match a victory. But that's not it.. the funny thing is that after this thread has been posted, Dametosh has installed installed NoCheat, which makes you wonder.. is his q2 fucked up now, then?
This post got too long, never my intention, but wtf.. read it if you like.
. Im actually on jazzies side on this one. I can feel that this "cheat forum" isnt what it should be. It is just making ppl angry at eachothers cause they share eachothers opinion about each demo you will post. Especially when u cant be for 100% someones cheating. Abit rough to go official and claim that someone is cheating just like that when you CANT know for sure. Do you have to use a cheat to see if there is a cheat? 
