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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 3:21 pm
by Stric
Deleting posts? :oh: ( dani-bot.dm2 sth like that :P )

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 5:50 pm
by arild
Helge[ANQ] wrote:
So f#cking What!...if they try to get an ping-advantage over other clans...is that bad behaviour or just plain smart thinking? :x


We didnt try to get a pingadvantage. we tried to get it more equal.

What do u prefer to play with ?

I rather have 25 instead of 40. and i rather play a clan who has 40 instead of 15 as most fins have in finland.



AND, is it fair by fins to request both maps in finland when they have ping advantage ? I dont say that fins are lame in any kind of way, I would most likely done the same if I had their ping.



In regular cws we have to accept their requests just to play a cw. In leagues we might aswell use the rules as any other clan.



And btw, the coin toss was a bit weird in the final i must say...

But i rather see a clan have valid tactic instead of 'ping-only' tactic. Not that I think UNi is one of those clans tho.

But we can take danish clans as a good example. A couple of years ago 80% of the danish clans choosed c2 at their own server. Reason: TNG 2.5 and pingadvantage :)



-Arild

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:55 am
by Jazzie
I personally think that one should change server to make your own ping better, not to make the opponents worse. Which wasn't the case here right?

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:35 pm
by arild
vs UNi it was to get better ping. vs OwN most of us had the same or maybe a little bit higher, except for wangham who had better.



-Arild

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 8:20 am
by Deathie-_-
arild wrote:vs UNi it was to get better ping. vs OwN most of us had the same or maybe a little bit higher, except for wangham who had better.



-Arild


Am i loosing something here?

vs UNi u played 1 on dk to get your pings better..

and vs OwN u played 1 on fi though most had same ping or bit higher except wangham who had better..?



Ehm?

First u go from fi to dk to get better

then from dk to fi and u suddenly have same (or little bit higher) and some of u even has better? O_o



Well, whatever.

But lets take a look at this point of view :shock:

U changed from fin to dk to get ur pings better

i quess ur pings improved with 5-10? (except wangham of coz whos ping went worse, if he played)

And fins get their pings doubled?

Atleast i have ping 15-25 on edome and above 40 on dk (unless its night and not much ppl)

So i assume its same for most of the fins.

Ok, of course u got the right to play on your own server.

But as u there say it was just to get pings even,

wich in this case seemed to be getting enemy teams ping higher.

Not getting your pings slower.

(atleast not that kind of ammounts worth mentioning about)

Well again :) its not really my problem.



But quess us fins should start play vs swedish clans like M.I in some russian server..

Wouldnt that just be great?

On our server us pinging 30 and u probably around 80 and on your server both pinging 40 :lol:

We can do it anyway u want it.



Ok, well that goes bit over the hills hehe.

But well

U got ping around 30-40 on fin and dk

and Fins get ping doubled on dk

So it would be same to play our map

in some russian server with same kinda things

our pings almost same and your pings doubled?



"Still, we didn't have pingadvantage in one single game in EAQL... "

Well not in the words exact meaning.

But whos gaming it changes more u having same ping

or fi/dk peeps having pings nearly doubled?

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 11:58 am
by Zonic
Deathie-_- wrote:
arild wrote:vs UNi it was to get better ping. vs OwN most of us had the same or maybe a little bit higher, except for wangham who had better.



-Arild


Am i loosing something here?

vs UNi u played 1 on dk to get your pings better..

and vs OwN u played 1 on fi though most had same ping or bit higher except wangham who had better..?



Ehm?

First u go from fi to dk to get better

then from dk to fi and u suddenly have same (or little bit higher) and some of u even has better? O_o



Well, whatever.

But lets take a look at this point of view :shock:

U changed from fin to dk to get ur pings better

i quess ur pings improved with 5-10? (except wangham of coz whos ping went worse, if he played)

And fins get their pings doubled?

Atleast i have ping 15-25 on edome and above 40 on dk (unless its night and not much ppl)

So i assume its same for most of the fins.

Ok, of course u got the right to play on your own server.

But as u there say it was just to get pings even,

wich in this case seemed to be getting enemy teams ping higher.

Not getting your pings slower.

(atleast not that kind of ammounts worth mentioning about)

Well again :) its not really my problem.



But quess us fins should start play vs swedish clans like M.I in some russian server..

Wouldnt that just be great?

On our server us pinging 30 and u probably around 80 and on your server both pinging 40 :lol:

We can do it anyway u want it.



Ok, well that goes bit over the hills hehe.

But well

U got ping around 30-40 on fin and dk

and Fins get ping doubled on dk

So it would be same to play our map

in some russian server with same kinda things

our pings almost same and your pings doubled?



"Still, we didn't have pingadvantage in one single game in EAQL... "

Well not in the words exact meaning.

But whos gaming it changes more u having same ping

or fi/dk peeps having pings nearly doubled?
That was a load of bullshit, I just have to comment this.



First of all, you say "Well again :) its not really my problem.". Why do you even bother writing this?

Secondly, do you know any facts? To me it seems you don't.

Third, why should we play with pingdisadvantage? You said yourself that you have 15-20 in ping at eDome("So i assume its same for most of the fins."), while we have 35-40, aint that SOME pingdifference?



And fyi, we play atleast 75% of all games with pingdisadvantage.

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 1:01 pm
by arild
Deathie-_- wrote:
and Fins get ping doubled on dk


hmm... most fins have 15-20 in finland. With ur arguments and some easy math u will have around 30-40 in dk if not even better.



-Arild

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 1:13 pm
by Jazzie
so it would be all ok in your opinion if all finnish clans played their homemap on a russian server? Just to equalize the "ping advantage"

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 1:31 pm
by Repsaj
Lets create a whine topic, for the onws who are interested me for one, dont give a fuck. We dutchies are the ones that get screwed over the most and you all know it. Tho i dont give a fuck anymore i've learned to accept it especially now i have 40 on .dk :twisted:

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 1:44 pm
by arild
Jazzie wrote:so it would be all ok in your opinion if all finnish clans played their homemap on a russian server? Just to equalize the "ping advantage"


no ?

30 vs 80 in ping and then 40 vs 20. more fair with 40vs20 and then 20vs40 ?



-Arild

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 1:54 pm
by Helge[ANQ]
:sleep: ...yadayadayadayada... :sleep:

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 2:36 pm
by kaaos
I don't have anything else to comment on this thread, just a little correction.



"most have 15-20 pings" is more like "25-45". of course there are players with ping less than 20 but NOT the majority.

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:01 pm
by arild
ok. i will shutup then :)



-Arild

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:36 pm
by Deimos
DaNi wrote:me faking a girl?



u are mistaking me for mia who was miami



get ur facts straight mr whiner


I never did that to join better clans, besides that it started out as a joke between us dani

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 4:05 pm
by Clement
Is you a girL DeimoS? YoU wanna jOin Uncontrolled RanGers!?!?