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NoCheat Only Server Problem

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:46 am
by DARKSIDE
Hi guys, i am tring to get a server up and running that only allows NoCheat clients to play. The thing is, i can get NoCheat clients to be kicked, and only normal quake 2 can be used, but not visa versa.

This should help

sv_nc_kick [bitmask]
Kick users not matching NoCheat settings:
(add up the following values you want to use and set sv_nc_kick to this)
1 - require nocheat code
2 - require nocheat video check to pass
4 - require nocheat model check to pass
8 - require nocheat video check to pass
256 - kick any nocheat users

256 works (only allowing normal quake 2, but i cant get "1" to work. Please Help.
*BUT i have gotten NoCheat verification up and working*

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:08 am
by stan0x
:bday:

try use APR...

nocheat sux anyway :sleep:

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:16 am
by n99
Where are you from?

Development of NoCheat has stopped, and is stuck at a BETA of 2.40, if I remember correctly. Even if it wasn't, enforcing an anti-cheat client is by no means an adequate way of making sure people are not cheating on your server, if, indeed, there this an adequate way. There are cheats around which are known to be able to emulate NoCheat (as well as other clients). My advice to you is to use the R1CH server binary, which fixes plenty of security holes and has far better perfomance than NCServer, and have a chat with some of the admins in #aq2admins on QuakeNet to see what other measures you can take against cheating.

I hope this was helpful,

- n99

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:18 am
by Clown
As much as it pains me to agree with Stan, I must. People can easily spoof using NoCheat now, and forcing this client won't help people. You're just as well off letting everyone play.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:40 am
by stan0x
sjow treu andy :bday:

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:42 am
by aztecx
darkside i got a nocheat server working. You have to have nocheat 2.40 client to connect then if anything fails you get booted.

Alot of people thing nocheat 2.40 is bugged but its not. Its much better then apprime and any other client apart from r1q2. (but that has no anti-cheat protection).

Also the 'cheat' that can emulate nocheat was stopped being produced and the last version was at 2.34. For them to hex edit the cheat and have it emulate 2.40 would be hell as it is encrypted AND it has a different security code to 2.34. Also the code is random everytime !nocheatsay or nc_say is called so that also makes it harder. There are NO cheats (wallhacks, aimbots, etc) that can bypass nocheat and i dont think so for a while. Nocheat 2.40 isnt really a beta because it is almost perfect.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:51 am
by dudemcpek
Prepare to be flamed, aztecx :wink:

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:58 am
by Clown
I feel like proving you wrong, but it would get me banned everywhere.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:59 am
by Sovnig
Since NoCheat isn't = No Cheat, then I don't see why it should be required for connecting to your server at all..?
Noone really bothers about the program anyways it seems...

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:11 am
by Den
fgs people, the guy is asking for help and not for smartass replies.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:39 am
by stan0x
gehehe treu den...


i think he can beter ask for help on the nocheat form :]

http://bryceinc.com/


GL


:bday:

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:37 am
by Da^JuaN
aztecx: First of all, there is an hacked version of nc 2.40, which emulates 2.40. 2nd, 2.40 is a beta, so you cant force people to use a beta version imo. For example, i cant load 32bit textures decently with nc 2.40, which i could with 2.34 and i can with all apr versions.
You say there are no cheats which can be used with nc 2.40, like wallhack, aimbot etc, ive to disappoint you.. there are, the same program which emulates nocheat 2.40.

And since both apr and nocheat (any version) is hacked, it doesnt matter anymore what you use nowadays, thats why i prefer apr nowadays, since it has way better features than nocheat. Somehow i dont have the right feeling with the r1q2 client, even though the serverclient of r1q2 is far way the best.
You'd better have good serveradmins who have the scripts and knowledge to catch the cheaters than having a client where you think of its not hacked.

I guess you aint that up-to-date in Australia ;)

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:33 pm
by nufan
Den wrote:fgs people, the guy is asking for help and not for smartass replies.

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:58 pm
by Clown
As I see it, I'm giving him better help than he asked for. Where's the gratitude guys?

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:22 pm
by nufan
nufan wrote:
Den wrote:fgs people, the guy is asking for help and not for smartass replies.