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Help plz

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:21 am
by fuct
My pc keeps restarting randomly and/or my monitor goes to standby. The usually happens when im playing aq2. Not only at times when the graphics would be under strain (gibs and such) but completely randomly. I have downloaded several different drivers and nothing changes. I have also tried playing aq2 with all the nice features taken out (gl_particle 0 and so on) nothing works.

Computer Specs:
GFX ATI Radeon 9200SE
Current GFX Driver ati2dvag 6.14.10.6462
PC Intel Pentium 4A 2533Mhz
AQ2 Client Aprq2 1.18

i have also tried using the catalyst drivers and putting the atiglxx.dll or whatever its called in my q2 directory. No change. Another thing i noticed is that in my system my gfx card is now called Radeon 9200 LE and i have no idea why. Im at a loss so a little help would be appreciated.

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:35 am
by skmz
Can be many different problems/solutions.

One is over-heating..

Many systems reboots themselves if they get over-heated. Just like a gfx-card.
Download/install a software that would tell you the temperature of your system, also make sure your system fans are running correctly.

It can also be a virus that can be activated randomly to restart your system, when opening different .exe files that are infected or anyone.

So run an anti-virus program, also spy-ware remover programs.

Do you have mIRC? Is it also running at the exposed times? Could also be a mIRC-macro script-virus, so a person can control your computer, or just randomly write new scripts in the backgrounds so they are activated whenever you have your mIRC opened.

Remove your current mIRC directory and install a new one.

I'm sorry for this problem you have, but there can be many reasons for why your system reboots.

Also re-install your operative system could kinda help you.

Your gfx-card might have been injuried somehow, try change it.

Best would be to see if it ONLY occurs when you have your Quake2 exe started and running. Then you can try switch clients, and ignore the mIRC-thingy. Might still be a virus.


These steps is what I could think of at the moment. I hope this can help you.

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:39 am
by Clown
startkeylogger

Edit for real answer:-
Overheating?
Dodgy/cheap VGA cable?
GFX card not docked properly?
Drivers?
Spyware/Virus?

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:44 am
by fuct
cheers skmz, after a little help on irc im thinking overheating is the problem. cpu tends to run very hot while playing q2. Its not a virus cos i have checked quite some times. Also it happens while irc is not open so thats not it.

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:49 am
by NRGizeR
My money is on overheating...

I'd say that this is NOT a mirc script at least, nor spyware, if your computer doesn't actually shutdown windows first... this because I'd say that these programs wouldn't have the hardware access required to hard-boot the computer, given that this is what it does that is (same result as if you press the reset button)... not even windows could be that insecure... A virus by definition gets around the security of the OS, so this COULD in theory cause this. However, if it happens only after playing a game for some while, this seems unlikely.

Most probably your system is overheating and rebooting as a safety measure. Note: gfx intense doesn't have to mean gibs or anything else, it's the amount of work the gfx actually does that counts, i.e. rendering a simple scene at 200fps can be alot more demanding than a complex scene at 10fps. Since q2 usually renders at full speed, the strain on the gfx would be the same, no matter what's going on on the screen. With time, your system heats up, and then boots...

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:00 am
by Clown
I told you all this already fuct. Why don't you listen!
Check and see if the GFX fan is still spinning. Check and see if there's any dust in the heatsinks and stuff. It might be worth investing in a new GPU cooler. But it's also worth just not playing AQ2.

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:39 am
by fuct
thank you all for ur help. I have done some spring cleaning with my fans and now i seem to be running ~20 - 30 degrees cooler while playing...and havent had a random restart yet :)

:heart: for clowneh

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:59 am
by BeAViS
happened also to me some times ago.
pc kept to shut down and reboot himself for apparent no reason.
overheating.
i bought new (and more powerful and silenced) fans and everithing returned to normal way ;)

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:51 am
by skmz
NRGizeR wrote:My money is on overheating...

I'd say that this is NOT a mirc script at least, nor spyware, if your computer doesn't actually shutdown windows first... this because I'd say that these programs wouldn't have the hardware access required to hard-boot the computer, given that this is what it does that is (same result as if you press the reset button)... not even windows could be that insecure... A virus by definition gets around the security of the OS, so this COULD in theory cause this. However, if it happens only after playing a game for some while, this seems unlikely.

Most probably your system is overheating and rebooting as a safety measure. Note: gfx intense doesn't have to mean gibs or anything else, it's the amount of work the gfx actually does that counts, i.e. rendering a simple scene at 200fps can be alot more demanding than a complex scene at 10fps. Since q2 usually renders at full speed, the strain on the gfx would be the same, no matter what's going on on the screen. With time, your system heats up, and then boots...
Sorry for off-topic, but I really just had to;

You can easily do alot with mIRC macro-scripts, if you have such talents to do it. There are normal commands for almost everything. If you know that command you can force the computer to do it. Trust me, I know this because I have some experience about macro scripts.

Here is how it works (but I won't tell you how to do it, ofcourse):

You use mirc scripts, but encrypted scripting, and then you ask someone to execute your code in their mIRC client, You can also use HTML-files to execute the scripts into your mIRC client, if you have it opened. So this can be very dangerous and annoying. It seems nothing happened. But it sure did, the victim just opened a port so you can control his computer with easy windows-commands through irc-commands.

Everything in Windows is controlled by commands, bat and .exe files that control your computer, but in the background ofcourse.

These encrypted scripts are amazing, you can huge damage, if you want.

For example, you can make a macro script that would do multiple things. Like reboot the computer, and after the reboot, go into a DOS-prompt and delete some neccesary system-files, or whatever you want.

If you don't have such program, router or whatever system, that can check when you touch/open/close your important ports, you are quite screwed.

Normal wannabe-hackers is stealing your password by using these scripts. If you have your pasword written into a file in your mIRC directory, the "hacker" can use it, and steal it. So a good point is not to have it written into any file. Just execute the password normally, you lazy bitches.

Best way to avoid this is to not use such ugly amateur-like crap mIRC clients. Try a java-applet, unix client, or another windows irc client.

And again, solutions:

Get systems/programs that won't allow you to open ports, without telling you.
Don't use mIRC, or write password inside a document.
use a web browser that will block popups and sites, also don't open unsafe webpages.

That's the spirit..

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:53 am
by fuct
all i know is that there IS a command to restart ur computer through irc...so i can see where ur coming from and it is technically possible