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Problem with ATI 9800XT (hercules).. drivers I think
Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 2:29 am
by Stim
Something I've noticed while playing with my ATI9800XT..
I think it's possibly the drivers that's causing this, but unsure. When playing AQ2, if an MSN window pops up notifying me that someone has just logged on, the screen starts to flicker fairly badly... makes it stupidly hard to play.. (especially if you're sensitive to things like flickering screens like me.)
That's not the part which worries me though. When the screen flickers, it reveals parts of the map (i.e. flashes through some walls and reveals models at the other side) hence acting like a "wall hack." Naturally I'd imagine this is fairly undetectable.. and could be exploited. I'll get some screenies up of what happens.. but I dont actually have a converter for tga files atm. Closing down MSN is the simple solution, but I'm not too sure if there's drivers out which stop this from happening.. might be worth submitting the problem to ATI.. as Hercules have stopped doing gfx oriented things now I believe.
Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:24 am
by Den
i doubt ppl can use this as an advantage. You have to examine what happens, take the drivers apart etc. Too much work.
I still like the old asus drivers

with the build-in wallhack
Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:54 am
by iler
This problem has been around some time already. In AQ2Suomi forums some guys have explained that they have the same 'problem'. Instant wh or something
But hey who uses MSN anyway

Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 11:23 am
by Clement
It can't be used for shit on servers running NCServer anyways..
Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 1:43 pm
by Sovnig
That msn thing... Well actually my screen's stopped flashing when I switched to axion quake 2 (wtf?:>). But the "wh" is still there, whenever msn pops up I can see through the walls at the locations where corpses and players are. When Im taking a screenshot it shows everything normal, heh.
BTW IM TURNING MSN OFF WHEN PLAYING CW'S!

Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 2:51 pm
by Stim
Morph what you talking about?
This can be used on any aq server..
it's a driver problem, practically undetectable.. I cant think of a way to find it.
and yes, MSN goes off when AQ goes up..
Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 2:55 pm
by Clement
I'm talking about the fact that servers running NCserver (Boomtown, DA, Jolt are the ones I can remember off the top of my head) don't send info about players/items that you're not suppposed to be able to see, so even though you can see through the walls, the players on the other side of the wall, won't be showing..
Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 2:02 am
by Stim
I'll get screenies mate, but those servers you just mentioned are the ones that I would normally play on.
Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 7:18 am
by dudemcpek
Stim with nocheat u can use screenshotjpeg command and it makes .jpg screenie
.tga really sux

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 8:10 am
by Stim
yeah, me in my infinite wisdom eh?
I realised that once I made the post... I'll give it a go. I just hope it shows the stuff which I'm after

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 8:18 am
by Endy
Morpher wrote:I'm talking about the fact that servers running NCserver (Boomtown, DA, Jolt are the ones I can remember off the top of my head) don't send info about players/items that you're not suppposed to be able to see, so even though you can see through the walls, the players on the other side of the wall, won't be showing..
Funny u mention it, cause I know some people who have this 'problem' as well. And it goes for Boomtown (don't know about DA and Jolt) as well as any other server.
Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 8:41 am
by Stric
Ye, I am from Slovenia and I play on DA mostly with ping ~50 and it sux alot becasue of NCServer ... I talked to Bryce about this and he said
[Bryce]: maybe you can convince the admin to disable it
Well , I tried to talk with DA|Pain and he never answerd me
What about NCserver to fix this problem?
[Bryce]: I plan to work on ncserver when nocheat is out
Thats all
I`m sorry. A little bit offtopic

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 8:46 am
by Da^JuaN
Uncle- wrote:Ye, I am from Slovenia and I play on DA mostly with ping ~50 and it sux alot becasue of NCServer ... I talked to Bryce about this and he said
[Bryce]: maybe you can convince the admin to disable it
Well , I tried to talk with DA|Pain and he never answerd me
What about NCserver to fix this problem?
Unci
We have removed NCserver for more than a week already, now happy?

Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 8:58 am
by Stric
Oh, I knew its sth different

more friendly

But i didnt know he removed it

Thank you guys, love ya more
Juani

Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 3:13 am
by Stim
just to let you know, this "works" on boomtown.