Changing motherboards

Forum for anything hard- or software related.

Moderator: Moderators

n99
"Sticks and Stones..."
Posts: 882
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:41 pm
Location: nl

Changing motherboards

Post by n99 »

Well my old motherboard broke so I got myself a 'new' one: ASUS a7n8x-e deluxe. Took out the old board with a friend, put the new board in. Not many jumpers so no worries there, put the radeon back in, put one 512 dimm in A2, the other 512 dimm in B1. Connected an IDE cable to my old harddisk, a WD 80 GB, the one with XP on it, one end in the board, middle in HD, the other end hanging loose. From the secondary IDE slot: another cable, with the dvd-player in the middle, CDRW at the end. Connected the floppy drive.

Now, I have two problems, whether or not they are related I don't know. First of all, the main problem. The damn thing doesn't boot up windows. Primary boot device is set to the WD80. It just goes post, then tells me it cannot boot. It is recognized as the primary master though

Second problem: everything goes slow. I mean, first it's detecting IDE drives, that lasts a full four minutes, then it goes to verify the DMI pool, which lasts another five! Any suggestions?
NRGizeR
feels some chest pain
Posts: 695
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:00 am
Location: fi
Contact:

Re: Changing motherboards

Post by NRGizeR »

n99 wrote:Well my old motherboard broke so I got myself a 'new' one: ASUS a7n8x-e deluxe. Took out the old board with a friend, put the new board in. Not many jumpers so no worries there, put the radeon back in, put one 512 dimm in A2, the other 512 dimm in B1. Connected an IDE cable to my old harddisk, a WD 80 GB, the one with XP on it, one end in the board, middle in HD, the other end hanging loose. From the secondary IDE slot: another cable, with the dvd-player in the middle, CDRW at the end. Connected the floppy drive.
If "they haven't changed it" *takes cover* one end of an IDE cable should be the one to put in the mobo, and the other end would be the master, the middle plug should be the slave. I've never heard of a mobo posting that slow tho, and I doubt that it would cause that kinds of problems just connecting a HD wrong. I would try to check for some misplaced jumper, but as I said, I've never really heard of a problem like that before, just try to unplug everything that you don't need to boot (extra memory, cdrw, dvd, floppy etc) and see if that makes a difference...
n99
"Sticks and Stones..."
Posts: 882
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:41 pm
Location: nl

Post by n99 »

humm let me test that tomorrow, the ide thing.
Gore Vidal: "To succeed is not enough. Others must fail."
Clown
unpossible??!?!!
Posts: 1750
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:38 am
Location: en

Post by Clown »

That's the same motherboard as me. Does this hard drive boot up on any other computer? The Windows install might have been corrupted. Does it detect your CPU as running at full speed?
I don't give a shit.
n99
"Sticks and Stones..."
Posts: 882
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:41 pm
Location: nl

Post by n99 »

I haven't got any other PC to boot that HD up on, but it worked fine before I took it out of the other mobo. CPU at full speed? I think it's an AMD XP 2800+, which is running atr 2 Ghz, that correct?
Clown
unpossible??!?!!
Posts: 1750
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:38 am
Location: en

Post by Clown »

Sounds right. Do you have any other devices plugged into the motherboard (USB or otherwise) when you try to boot? Are you sure the IDE devices jumpers aren't on 'cable select'?

Edit: What computer are you using now? Didn't you say you had two computers at home?
I don't give a shit.
n99
"Sticks and Stones..."
Posts: 882
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:41 pm
Location: nl

Post by n99 »

I'm using my parents p3 500 for aq2, I'm not allowed to rummage around with that one's insides, however.

IDE Cable select, don't even know what that is, I'll have a look in the manual. I can't recall any IDE settings that use jumpers on the board, but I might be mistaken.
iler
special poika polizai
Posts: 78
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 9:19 am
Location: fi
Contact:

Post by iler »

I think that Clown means those jumpers in HD, there is like master, slave and cable select.
paino on voimaa, ylipaino on ylivoimaa BD http://www.clanunited.org
Den
something dur dur
Posts: 2616
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2003 8:56 am
Location: nl
Contact:

Post by Den »

isnt that like the first u do when installing ur hdd's ;) to check the jumpers.
There's a chopper coming in 3 days and there's a katana on top of the cafe and that's all you need to know
Image
n99
"Sticks and Stones..."
Posts: 882
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:41 pm
Location: nl

Post by n99 »

Yeah but I never touched the jumpers on the HD either since it was the primary master and still is the primary master.
Sulfate
sank like a rock
Posts: 105
Joined: Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:41 am
Location: nl
Contact:

Post by Sulfate »

Just check it first..lotso f problems with that....

Connected an IDE cable to my old harddisk, a WD 80 GB, the one with XP on it, one end in the board, middle in HD, the other end hanging loose <-- try to connect the end...(like some said before) solves problems ;)...

The slow starting... maybe u need to turn on in the bios : quickboot? and check if ur processor is @ the right speed (Said bofore but that was 2 ghz..) and check ur RAM memory config in the bios...i hope i helped u...else contact me @ irc.. (Sulfate @ #wh00s or questionmark)
Nobody Likes Us We Dont Care!
MikuzA
joined the game
Posts: 47
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2003 11:49 am
Location: fi

Post by MikuzA »

try fixing your windows install with the windows CD, it might just be the OS that is fuxxed after new motherboard.. :rambo:
Oon tomaattikastikkeen läski mansikkarahka
n99
"Sticks and Stones..."
Posts: 882
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:41 pm
Location: nl

Post by n99 »

Alright, I tried that, wouldn't boot from CD automatically, so I got myself a boot-floppy. That worked, went to the R:\i386, ran winnt.exe

Error during setup, couldn't initialize a swap file.

This probably means that either:

- My harddisk is, although correctly detected, damaged in some way.
- There is something wrong with the IDE cable (not very likely).
- The primary IDE channel on the motherboard is damaged (even less likely, with a brand new board).

- There is still something wrong with the settings in the BIOS.

Last option, most likely. When I go into primary master, I can choose a type or let it pick the type automatically, can't recall all the options now, but they include 'LBA' and 'CHS', what do these abbreviations mean? What should I use if I want to override the automatic setting?
flz
joined the game
Posts: 29
Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2004 11:27 am
Location: de
Contact:

Post by flz »

No need to set it to manual .... it shoud work fine on automatic.

But if u want to, set it to LBA (logical block addressing). CHS is not used anymore on newer devices.

Set all to "Automatic", check if jumpers are set correctly as discussed above, try other cables.

If you think your hdd is damaged or you need further help try Data Lifeguard Tools from WD ..this tool helps you to connect and test your hdd. you find it on www.wdc.com
8)
n99
"Sticks and Stones..."
Posts: 882
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 6:41 pm
Location: nl

Post by n99 »

Can that program run from POST?
Gore Vidal: "To succeed is not enough. Others must fail."
Post Reply