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New Monitor and FPS

Post by Caracol »

Today I got my brother's monitor. A Samtron 98PDF.
I setted it to 140Hz at 800x600 and ran AQ2, it works fine. But -the first time- the fps (cl_maxfps 120) were stuck at 70 and when looking at a wall I got ~124. And the second time were just stuck at 70.
Of course it work at 140 with gl_swapinterval 0, but I want it on to avoid the freaking vertical disynchronization sometimes.
I tried setting the Hz up to 120 on 800x600, but worked the same. Any idea?
Thanks in advance.

C.

Edit: By the way, in my old monitor (iiyama Vision Master 17) I played smoothly at 100fps (capped).
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Post by Caracol »

Ok, now this is a weird phenomenon:

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69-70 FPS

Red place
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121-124 FPS

Blue place
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Same as above, 69-70 FPS

And in some other walls it gives me 88, 117 or some other unstable and weird ammounts. Without the earlier experiences with another monitor I would say is hardware... but I'm completely lost. No freaking idea.

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Post by gegoj »

I can't explain why You have such low frame rates, but I can explain the differences between "the blue and the red" place (or rather, I can show the differences):
start a map (rok for example),
when the map is loaded write gl_ext_multitexture 0 and gl_showtris 1 in Your console,
restart video (vid_restart);
The results should be self explanatory enough.
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Post by Janner »

Caracol, im not a wizzkid, but if you have a flatscreen it's normal :-) i have 60 and that's my highest with my monitor. I hope you succeed pumping up the FPS :-)
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Post by sCrewFace »

FPS has nothing to do with your screen.. Its all about settings. What gfx card u got?
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Post by Haudrauf »

Check or tell us in this order: CPU, GPU, Memory, Drivers, Q2-Client, Q2-Settings. :)
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Post by Caracol »

Operating System: Windows XP SP2
CPU: AMD Sempron 2600+
Memory: 512mb DDR400
Video Card: GeForce 4 MX 440
Monitor: Samtron 98PDF

Driver: Forceware 7.7.1.3 (beta)*

Q2 Client: Aprq2 v1.17

Q2 Settings:

set skydistance "5000"
set gl_stainmaps "0"
set gl_waterwaves "0"
set gl_replacewal "1"
set gl_replacepcx "1"
set gl_shadows "1"
set gl_dynamic "1"
set gl_fontshadow "0"
set vid_fullscreen "1"
set vid_gamma "0.85000"
set vid_ypos "0"
set vid_xpos "0"
set vid_ref "gl"
set gl_driver "opengl32"
set gl_ext_palettedtexture "0"
set gl_polyblend "1"
set gl_modulate "3"
set gl_texturemode "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST"
set gl_ext_swapinterval "1"
set gl_ext_multitexture "1"
set gl_ext_pointparameters "1"
set gl_swapinterval "1"
set gl_3dlabs_broken "1"
set gl_ext_compiled_vertex_array "1"
set gl_vertex_arrays "0"
set gl_texturesolidmode "default"
set gl_texturealphamode "default"
set gl_finish "0"
set gl_mode "4"
set gl_particle_att_c "0.01"
set gl_particle_att_b "0.0"
set gl_particle_att_a "0.01"
set gl_particle_size "40"
set gl_particle_max_size "40"
set gl_particle_min_size "2"
set gl_particle 0
set rate "25000"
set cl_maxfps 120
set cl_maxpackets 40
set gl_celshading "0"
set gl_celshading_width "3"

* I would like to repeat that the SAME combination worked perfectly at 100FPS with my old monitor (iiyama Vision Master 17). That's the reason of the thread' name. And FPS are related with the screen.
And it is a flatscreen, but still a CRT.
Thanks in advance... again.

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Post by ToMMics »

Caracol wrote:And FPS are related with the screen.
in which way? :shocker:
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Post by Caracol »

In the way that if I'm having the Vsync on, then it will limit my FPS to the refresh rate of my monitor. Of course, if I turn it off I can get over the refresh rate.
The thing is, that my refresh rate is 140Hz and with the Vsync off I'm getting a capped 70 FPS. That's what's weird.
I think it must be _something_ that keeps my FPS "stable" at a number. Being that number 70 (to avoid a constant 70-90~ FPS change... or maybe it is like that but Aprq2 doesn't show it like that in the cl_fps).

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Post by imeiz »

change gl_swapinterval to 0, should do the trick i hope :)
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Post by Caracol »

Of course it does. But the thing is that it SHOULD work at 140 FPS without turning the Vsync OFF... monitor at 140Hz, cl_maxfps at 120 and it stays in 70.
Anyways, I'm having problems with my strafes and stuff... so I made some toggle aliases that work pretty well... still the whole thing is a mistery.

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Post by Dirty_Lobster »

Hi there little biatch ;)

I don't fully remember how this worked, but there is something fishy about fps that drops to half the value of your screens Hz.. I shouldn't write more as I'm not updated about it right now..

But here's a link

http://www.teamradeon.com/articles/guid ... _guide.asp

it's offline atm, but the article is VERY informative regarding this subject.

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Post by NRGizeR »

old thread but still... I don't know if this is a TFT or not, but if it is, it doesn't matter what refresh rates you're trying to run it at... the DVI specification is 60hz and that's that... the highest you can currently go is 75hz if I remember correctly... you get to set the refreshrate higher in the driver settings sometimes... but this still wont affect the actual refresh rates.... so if you want vsync on a TFT, be prepared to play with 75 (or even 60 fps) I personally turned my vsync off after buying my TFT, since I couldn't play with the low fps.
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Post by Dirty_Lobster »

Well, I have the exact same monitor, 98PDF

Samtron 98PDF http://www.samtron.com/product/98PDF_fea.html

Is a copy of, and the specs is exactly the same as:

Samsungs 997DF http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc ... =LE19ISBBQ


This is due to Samtron beeing Samsung's "budget brand" or something like that :)
In fact, you can use the Samsung drivers for your Samtron monitor.
Btw. Maximum for 800x600 is 146Hz, not 140Hz B>>
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