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I have to agree with this. While it's great people can make some really good looking maps, with well chosen textures etc., I'd MUCH rather have a bunch of cw maps. I'd really like something different, seems everyone's stuck in cliff2, cloud, airport and mesto nowadays, but unfortunately there's not all that many cw maps to choose from.emu wrote:last year how many maps has been out thats been playable ? simplicity ? thats about it ? more gmae play less looks
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I would say few words: Its impossible to statisfy everybody. You want cw maps? have u even tried half of new maps that been released? I doubt it.Stinger wrote:I have to agree with this. While it's great people can make some really good looking maps, with well chosen textures etc., I'd MUCH rather have a bunch of cw maps. I'd really like something different, seems everyone's stuck in cliff2, cloud, airport and mesto nowadays, but unfortunately there's not all that many cw maps to choose from.emu wrote:last year how many maps has been out thats been playable ? simplicity ? thats about it ? more gmae play less looks
So I'll better statisfy myself and make a map that I like myself.
Beavisss wrote: I would say few words: Its impossible to statisfy everybody. You want cw maps? have u even tried half of new maps that been released? I doubt it.
So I'll better statisfy myself and make a map that I like myself.
Ofcourse it is impossible to satisfy everyone, and I haven't tried all the new maps, but I can tell you what's good to have in a cw map and what you simply can't have in them for them to work - and most if not all of them have flaws, which make them unfit for cws.
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No kidding, but I am really wondering, why dont u make awesome maps, or havent asked yet somebody to make great cw map. You know what cw map needs, you are the best. So why do we still play cliff2 and cloud!Stinger wrote:Beavisss wrote: I would say few words: Its impossible to statisfy everybody. You want cw maps? have u even tried half of new maps that been released? I doubt it.
So I'll better statisfy myself and make a map that I like myself.
Ofcourse it is impossible to satisfy everyone, and I haven't tried all the new maps, but I can tell you what's good to have in a cw map and what you simply can't have in them for them to work - and most if not all of them have flaws, which make them unfit for cws.
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Well obviously you took this pesonally for some reason? I'm not going to take this any further if you're going to bitch and moan about it, so, forget it..Beavisss wrote: No kidding, but I am really wondering, why dont u make awesome maps, or havent asked yet somebody to make great cw map. You know what cw map needs, you are the best. So why do we still play cliff2 and cloud!
waiting for your answer!
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In my experience people don't know what they want... Most of us know what kind of map we like, but we don't know WHY we like that particular map. I've tried getting second opinions about parts of the map, or even the map as a whole several times (mostly when making my UrT maps) and after that experience I would have to say that it would probably have been better not to. Almost no-one would confess to liking maps with camping spots, but almost everyone likes maps like urban2 (which has a great number of camping spots).
While no-one would agree that they like a particular feature, it's also partly that very feature that makes the map fun to play. It should all be balanced, but if you don't have camping spots (for example), you leave out part of the aq2 elements. If you don't have long open distances, you won't have proper sniper areas, if you don't have proper small corridors and/or passages, you won't have proper hc/shotgun opertunities, and so on and so forth. The community can often tell a mapper if his map is good or not, but I've seldom seen a respons that would actually tell me exactly WHAT the player liked about it. I've also experienced on several occations that the player in question will try the map for about 2 minutes of jumping around on it, never even giving it a proper chance, before flaming or praising the map.
That's my experience/opinion, if you want, flame me, but I do think I have at the very least a valid point in this post.
While no-one would agree that they like a particular feature, it's also partly that very feature that makes the map fun to play. It should all be balanced, but if you don't have camping spots (for example), you leave out part of the aq2 elements. If you don't have long open distances, you won't have proper sniper areas, if you don't have proper small corridors and/or passages, you won't have proper hc/shotgun opertunities, and so on and so forth. The community can often tell a mapper if his map is good or not, but I've seldom seen a respons that would actually tell me exactly WHAT the player liked about it. I've also experienced on several occations that the player in question will try the map for about 2 minutes of jumping around on it, never even giving it a proper chance, before flaming or praising the map.
That's my experience/opinion, if you want, flame me, but I do think I have at the very least a valid point in this post.