This is getting really old, really fast.

emu · Post by **emu** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:28 am

There are just to many new maps comming now. in the begining i thought "hey fine, cool" They can go in to the archive but why put every god damn map on the servers ? 90% of the maps done look cool but the gameplay is not 1% of what the old maps have. Please remove some of the new maps from the server, there are just to many... And for the map makers, try focus on gameplay and not looks.

Post by **WizardExt** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:42 am

Please name the maps that lack of gameplay. I really doubt that you have tried 1% of the new maps with a larger crowd. Post a list of the maps that lacks gameplay and we can have a discussion.

nufan · Post by **nufan** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:51 am

don't really think you have given all the new maps a chance to get teamplay..
there wasnt any teamplay before on the old maps either...
but I understand what you mean tho.. It have been kinda many new maps latly. but hey.. if you look at catch.. there are like 5 out of 20 new maps...
so I don't think the newmapshatersclub should complain that much.
give the maps a little time before freaking out.
the map makers deserves that their map is having a go in rotation also.

angra · Post by **angra** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:01 am

There is some new maps out there with great gameplay just look at wfall, 4 clans in AQ2w.league have it as one of there homemaps. and i loooove new maps, so just keep up the good work! and every new map can't be a new cloud or cliff2, where is the fun in that?

emu · Post by **emu** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:38 am

i dont know the map names on the maps on catch, like nufan said there are quiet a few 5 out of 20, thats 20%. First map i tested was this totaly rubbish map by pauhii i think. with a pool up on one corner and shit. totaly awefull gameplay. Then it tested a map made by beavisss and 2 more. gameplay again, totaly shitty. And i can beat that alot of the clans taking on the new maps is not for gameplay its to play a map that others cant handle (at onces)
Story has allways been like that, look at M.I (rok) and the clans who took wargroun in the begining. they where winning til ppl managed to figure out the maps.

to many look at the maps and think "z0mg" nice looks. But nobody can make the gameplay that some of the old maps have.

The mass production of maps are crazy, i think mapers like (the onces i know) Pauhii & Beavisss should have some critisism towards their own work and not publish ever god damn map they create becuase frankley there aren't all that.

Post by **Clown** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:56 am

Everyone has maps they like and everyone has maps they dislike. You aren't going to please everyone with any one map. You might not like icity (the map with the pool in the corner), but I do. I rarely play public games, but as I see it, the maps are only going on the server but they aren't actually in the rotation?

SaLsA · Post by **SaLsA** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:14 am

emu wrote:5 out of 20, thats 20%

err,, thats 25%

ganjaman · Post by **ganjaman** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:18 am

SaLsA wrote:
emu wrote:5 out of 20, thats 20%
err,, thats 25%

hehe

SaLsA · Post by **SaLsA** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:25 am

well... I'm kinda picky

Post by **imeiz** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:54 am

IF a mapper now releases a new cloud/c2 clone, ppl will probably play it on a server, then go "cloud is better, lets vote for it" and ignore the new map.

if you like old maps, play on servers with them. you can't possibly please everyone with a new rotation, nor a new map, so try to understand that from someone elses point of view too :)

emu · Post by **emu** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:55 am

Clown wrote:Everyone has maps they like and everyone has maps they dislike. You aren't going to please everyone with any one map. You might not like icity (the map with the pool in the corner), but I do. I rarely play public games, but as I see it, the maps are only going on the server but they aren't actually in the rotation?

thats fine i know that some maps some ppl like and visa versa. but the majority of the new maps are only concerntrating on looks and not teamplay which in my opinion is the totaly wrong reason to make the map. beavisss and the guys really make sweet maps, but they are as playable and some of the futures on the maps are so predictable it gets shitty,

imeiz wrote:IF a mapper now releases a new cloud/c2 clone, ppl will probably play it on a server, then go "cloud is better, lets vote for it" and ignore the new map.

if you like old maps, play on servers with them. you can't possibly please everyone with a new rotation, nor a new map, so try to understand that from someone elses point of view too

i like some of the maps i really do, but the criteria for bringing in new maps is really low, and mainly focused around looks. the reason ppl play c2 or cloud is not the awesome looks, its how awesome it feels to play them. Thats what the new maps should try and copy, the gameplay. And on another note some of the maps are just to big (in size & MB)

Post by **imeiz** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:03 am

emu wrote:i like some of the maps i really do, but the criteria for bringing in new maps is really low, and mainly focused around looks. the reason ppl play c2 or cloud is not the awesome looks, its how awesome it feels to play them. Thats what the new maps should try and copy, the gameplay. And on another note some of the maps are just to big (in size & MB)

i think that cloud and c2 are just so much more simplified than the new maps, so that might be a reason for it :) a map built of blocks only could be really good to play in, but would look like bs ;) anyway, hope that there'll come up some maps you wanna play too.

emu · Post by **emu** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:13 am

imeiz wrote:
emu wrote:i like some of the maps i really do, but the criteria for bringing in new maps is really low, and mainly focused around looks. the reason ppl play c2 or cloud is not the awesome looks, its how awesome it feels to play them. Thats what the new maps should try and copy, the gameplay. And on another note some of the maps are just to big (in size & MB)
i think that cloud and c2 are just so much more simplified than the new maps, so that might be a reason for it a map built of blocks only could be really good to play in, but would look like bs anyway, hope that there'll come up some maps you wanna play too.

see! they are really simple made, but even if it has nice textures (like in reaction quake3) they where still awesome to play. unlike the new maps (which looks awesome) the game play lacks big time. Oh, and if to many awesome looking maps come at once (like they are now) they aren't gonna look that awesome compared to the new onces all the time. imo the map gang should have some self critisism and stop wanking over the fact that ppl enjoy their work all the time (as in looks, cuz they know zero to nothing about gameplay)

pauhi · Post by **pauhi** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:07 am

emu, give the maps a chance before judging, try them out in cw, public or hell, even in quad. Have you tested the map I released last sunday, revolution?
At first glance people always say that it looks too big, yet after the match they say it's great.

You're partially right about icity thing (I should had named it as "pancake"), I dont like it either. I'm crying blood when I'm looking at it now, but some people actually seem to like it.
I've heard that it's very popular in U.S public rotation and some european clans play it aswell.
It's _impossible_ to make a map that everyone likes.

Anyway, I'm doing these maps for my own joy, because I like it.
If people like the map I make, it's good then, a mapper needs constant feedback about his work, criticism is very important aswell.
Peronally I'm bored of urbans, riot, tj etc basic maps..

Post by **Beavisss** » Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:05 pm

/me waits for new map by emu with awesome gameplay.

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