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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 12:00 am
by madsopp
This is reeealy suspicious , he disconnected earlier in the map and rejoined and suddenly hit like a god. (watch carefully the 2nd round when he hits Lurre twice., and thx to morpher who made this nice SS when he hits. Discuss this plz :)



" www.morph.urangers.dk/N2.dm2 " " www.morph.urangers.dk/N.jpg "

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 12:03 am
by Clement
That sure is one skilled player.. or is it? I'll post my opinion later on..

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 4:23 am
by Repsaj
hmm, can't really say.



He has like 2/3 really weird shots and the rest is quite possible i only dont know if he's capable of these things. I don't know the guy, only that I played vs him yesterday.



So I'm not saying he cheats/cheated or not.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 5:11 am
by Den
he obviously cheats :) His shots are just way to accurate and some are just move ur xhair close enough at ur enemy and click :P

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 5:40 am
by WuWili
Hm... Dunno... Few kinda suspicious shots, but one might be lucky.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 5:59 am
by dudemcpek
Few weird shots ye, but I see lots of snipers that hit heads like this and also have this high acc...

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 6:00 am
by Den
bs :) not like that.. watch carefully

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 6:42 am
by Da^JuaN
Hmm.. dont really want to say, on 1 hand i say he cheats.. but on the other hand i dont think he cheats. I watched the demo with wh enabled, so maybe it helped, but you dont really see him aiming through walls.

There are really suspicious shots innit, indeed that 2nd round and when that guy comes up in the ladder on his right hand, he couldnt see him going up there and the *p0p*, that was really wh-like. I was wondering about his acc with his sniping at the end of the map? it really looked like he had acc 60-70% which should be unrealistic.

If he was using a wh, he was really trying to hide it, because on some moments you wont normally move like that.

If he was using a ratbot or something like that, spikes maybe.. it can be true.



Im really not 100% sure, pointing at the many times he hit and the little times he actually missed i would say he could be using a ratbot or spikes or something like that. But its not obvious enough like it was on the demo of dametosh.



- Da^JuaN

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 6:47 am
by Da^JuaN
[ 12:44:58 ] [ +Da^JuaN` ] hmm NuFan, im not really sure about that demo.. read my comment on the hp of aq2worlds forum, but do you know his acc with sniper at the end of the map?

[ 12:45:32 ] [ @NuFan ] it's still the same

[ 12:45:36 ] [ @NuFan ] 55-60%

[ 12:46:36 ] [ +Da^JuaN` ] because he didnt really miss a lot of shots, but the shots he hit werent really suspicous, except 2 or 3

[ 12:46:56 ] [ @NuFan ] mm

[ 12:47:01 ] [ +Da^JuaN` ] and the shots he missed he mostly hit the block where he was hiding behind

[ 12:47:14 ] [ @NuFan ] ye



That was another strange thing, he mostly hit the blocks and not lets say 2cm next to the enemy.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 7:09 am
by Blizzeh
well.. I checked out the demo, but I have to say that I don't think he was cheating.. some shots were "botlike" but I've seen more players shoot like that, why should he be an exception just because not everyone heard from him ?

One time on a public playing urban, I had 52% accuracy using sniper only.. it was just a lucky day I guess. and some people have their sensitivity really high, so it may look like they are "botting" because they move at high speed and aim accurate.. but like I said, most people do so. So watching someone's crosshair isn't really helpful like in the screenshot.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 7:11 am
by Jazzie
Did he snipe? Since you talk about accuracy in the class of around 60% I suppose he did.

Then there is one really easy way of determining wether he was botting or not.

Look for these kind of statistics: http://w1.316.telia.com/~u31618788/IDAL ... -16-00.jpg

Bots tend to hit almost 100% chest/kevlar and head. Accuracy can be screwed up and be kind of normal(say 45%, as in my example), cause of perhaps shotting like a madman when there are no enemies present, or simply by missing by too much. I wouldn't like to tell anything from a demo(as most of you prolly know :p), In my opinion, a frags/damage ratio or a statistics screenshot would be better.

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 7:18 am
by Den
Theres this part where this guy is in the middle, and theres an enemy infront of him on the lower roof thing. Hes jumping behind the lil boxes and shooting. He doesnt even aim at him, but he hits him?



Other part theres an enemy on the highest roof with the 5 lil windows building. He(n guy) shoots the guy in kev, but he isnt even properly zoomed in? No way u can do that. Then theres that guy coming up the ladder on the right, and no dajuan its not a wh, its called sound, he was reloading.



and theres this part where the enemy jumps on the truck and he headshots one. His aim was just too smooth :)



spawn later, he climbs up near the containers, and p0ps skretch :) uhu nice one!

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 7:52 am
by Kurupt
why didnt u spec lurre, his cheats were so much better then this N guy :o

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 8:44 am
by Repsaj
Den wrote:Other part theres an enemy on the highest roof with the 5 lil windows building. He(n guy) shoots the guy in kev, but he isnt even properly zoomed in? No way u can do that.
lol i see this happening like a least 2 times every map on a public. When u have zoomed it already is in the zoomed aim and u will hit him if aimed correctly. Mostly with a slight difference, but this certainly is possible.
Den wrote:
and theres this part where the enemy jumps on the truck and he headshots one. His aim was just too smooth :)
This one is a shot which is definately NOT cheat I do this quite often myself. The thing is its easy to predict where he's going and u can shoot him very easy.



I wouldn't say he cheats, but i wouldn't be really surprised if he was

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 9:36 am
by Den
oh yes mr. aq :) ur so right :hop:



the truck thing: he aims above the players, so far i could see he doesnt aim at the head at all.



Look at the way he aims, very nervous-like, then he see's some and suddenly its all a smooth :P