Making a movie. Disc space?

Proto · Post by **Proto** » Wed May 25, 2005 2:59 pm

Okay, so since everyone wants help with jumps and stuff, I decided to make a movie.

In this movie it'll be clips of the most usefull jumps I know, the funniest, and hardest. So, basicly, all the jumps I know.

Anyway, before compiling, encoding, editing whatever, how much would.. Oh, I don't know, about 1 hour of RAW .avi use of my harddrive?

And what programs or Q2 clients are the best ones for exporting .dm2 into an windows-editable movie, like .avi or .mpeg?

Also, (I guess I could find the answer to this one in some turturial, but since I'm already asking so many other questions), what format is best?

DivX ? (how many pixels? 000x000 ? version? other specs?)
XviD ?
.mpeg4 ?
.mp4?
(Windows Media Video) .wmv?

Please, share your knowledge :p
If it doesn't take to much discspace, maby I'll start rendering, exporting or whatever soon..

I haven't made a Q2 demo in years, and, well, the quality wasn't all that great.

Thanks beforehand.

- ^Proto

Post by **imeiz** » Wed May 25, 2005 5:25 pm

dunno if it helps that much, but http://www.aq2suomi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1867 by Woce and Masa :)

xvid is in these days, i think. hope to see a jumpin movie soon ;)

aztecx · Post by **aztecx** » Wed May 25, 2005 7:21 pm

when exporting it is like 10mb a second.
When encoding you want good quality at a low bit rate. I would use wmv9 cus its easiest to use and comes up with very good quality. Message me on msn for help in setting that up if u need help. (640x480)

Also use either beefquake or apprime quake. I would use apprime cus its just the simplest and cus its only for jumps would probably be the best.

Post by **arild** » Thu May 26, 2005 12:38 am

raw avi takes 14,5mb /s if i remember correctly. Used to do that for me atlest.

-Arild

angra · Post by **angra** » Thu May 26, 2005 1:04 am

vmw9!, but max on everything! (i think i did that)

Dimmo · Post by **Dimmo** » Thu May 26, 2005 2:06 am

Sorry but i dont see any point of making a movie which contains old jumps. Only new stuff can make the movie interesting. And dont say that "it will have few new jumps", because it should be all new.

NRGizeR · Post by **NRGizeR** » Thu May 26, 2005 2:13 am

arild wrote:raw avi takes 14,5mb /s if i remember correctly. Used to do that for me atlest.

that would depend on what kind of resolution you are using... a video will take less discspace if you use a low resolution as opposed to a high one (duh!) I'm don't have a clue as to if you can choose the resolution for an avi-export from apr or beefquake yourself tho, never used the avi-export.

-NRG

aztecx · Post by **aztecx** » Thu May 26, 2005 3:11 am

aviexport exports the video at the resolution you are currently playing at, if u change it then export it will record at that resolution. It exports everything on the screen...

Meist0r · Post by **Meist0r** » Thu May 26, 2005 3:25 am

- depends also on framerate, colordepth and sound
- shure u can choose the resolution for avi-export in bq and apr, its the resolution u've set in before exporting
- my settings: uncomressed avi 640x480x32@25fps with uncompressed sound in q2 qualitly => 23 Mbyte / sek
- I'll advise DivX Pro as final codec, it provides imo slightly better performance (maybe just a subjective opinion, couse it simply has to, as the commercial version of it's little brother XviD), easier to use - has better interface and beautiful documentation
- after 6 Months Trial period u can change to XviD or reinstall ur whole system and use DivX Pro Trial again :-)

@new jupms only
A recammed simultan jumping performance mega show with old jumps would look nice :-)

Masa^ · Post by **Masa^** » Thu May 26, 2005 3:32 am

It goes pretty much like this:

with 640x480 it takes about 1.57gb/minute
with 800x600 it takes about 2.45gb/minute
with 1024x720 it takes about 3.63gb/minute

Dimmo · Post by **Dimmo** » Fri May 27, 2005 1:50 am

I wouldnt recommend anything bigger than 640x480. For example 800x600@30fps needs over 650mhz p3 to play smoothly without dropping frames and i believe there is many people in aq2 scene with such low end machines. Also, going to higher fps like 40 or 50 requires more from the watchers cpu.

Proto · Post by **Proto** » Fri May 27, 2005 11:49 am

Thanks for all the replies, oh, and for the guy who thought it wouldn't be any fun to watch all the old jumps again, uhm.. what can I say.. maby it'll be funnier to watch me do them? I don't know, but atleast now you'll get them all at one place.

And I promisse a few new moves I found myself, which I haven't seen anyone do, or shown anyone, so it should be worth it.

Guess I'll start exporting in a few weeks then, and making demos later this weekend.

thanks again..

maGro · Post by **maGro** » Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:34 am

hey, i am wondering if much quality gets lost when you render every videopart two times. my new movie will probably becomes too long for my hdd to store, so i thought about rendering everything once to render everything in a second step together. Any comments?

PanConLonga · Post by **PanConLonga** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:13 pm

when I made "evolution", to save space, I encoded one time the uncompressed clips with the best quality settings in xvid... then i puted all togheter and then the last encode....... Didn`t have that much quality loss... but if you don`t use the best quality the first encode, you can tell the quality loss...